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Since when does a rapist and murderer make a good romantic leading man?

So I just finished the first season of True Blood and the first couple of episodes from Season 2 and I'm pretty shocked. I have a degree in screen writing and one of the number one rules of script writing is that your protagonist has to be likable. A man who does not understand that when a woman says no to sex act that no means no is not likable by any stretch of the imagination. Neither is a boyfriend who murders his girlfriend's uncle behind her back.

The second time Sookie and her vampire boyfriend have sex she asks him NOT to bite her this time. He does anyway. I guess a 100 or so years did not teach him that a woman's body is sacred and you don't enter her body in any way without her permission. She said no, he did it anyway. Sookie also demonstrated over and over that she could handle herself and her own personal conflicts with people and didn't want others interfering. Sookie's conflict with her uncle was LONG over years ago. She banished him from the family and he was an old, alone wheel chair bound cripple who was no threat to anyone now. But vampire Bill decides that he should murder her uncle anyway.

I just want to be clear about something, in Twilight Bella and Edward's relationship was obviously unhealthy. But the difference between unhealthy and abusive is boundaries. Vampire Bill crosses Sookie's boundaries by forcing a sex act on her she said no to and by murdering her uncle. When Edward caught Bella kissing Jacob he did not get upset or do anything. He just decided to let Bell make what ever choice made her the happiest. When vampire Bill caught Sookie kissing his romantic rival he went all crazy and violent on the rival. See the difference?

Thank you HBO for producing a show that glorifies abuse and the violation of personal boundaries in relationships. Like we don't see enough of that in real life already.


First off, no, you protagonist doesn't have to be likable as long as he or she engages the audience. The Godfather for instance.

Second, despite the recent trend... vampires = EVIL.
My first thought was Raging Bull too.
Oh and third, Bill's not the protagonist, Suki is. If I remember correctly, the books are written in the first person and Suki is it.
In that case the rules of writing have changed since I graduated college. Was a long time ago, maybe my education is a bit outdated.
"The Cask of Amontillado" by Poe was first published in the November 1846.
Sorry, they didn't introduce us to that at CSUN.
I was brought up to believe that no means no. It seemed so obvious and absolute that I never questioned it.
It was a long lesson to learn that that's just not how the real world works (and I'm bitter about the costs endured learning this).

A lot of women, perhaps without even realizing it, deep down are still conditioned by society to the idea that they would be sluts or Promiscuous unless they mount some appearance of token resistance to having the sex that they want to have. (And that being a slut is a bad thing). Also, some seem to feel that the guy isn't into them enough if he doesn't present a sufficiently forceful desire to overcome at least some resistance. It's infuriating.
I don't know what social circles you're dating in but in the goth scene women seem to embrace being a slut. I feel like a complete freak in this scene because I don't have sex on a first date and I don't sleep with someone just because we happen to be dating and/or attracted to each other. That seems to be standard behavior for the majority (not all, but most) of the women in this scene. Maybe you should date goth.
My point was mainly that no-means-no will only be taken as seriously as it is true, and culturally, right now, it's still not all that true. (It's presumably much truer than it used to be though.) In this world, Guys who respect no-means-no, are taught the error of their ways, and cease respecting it.

From what I hear, goth boys generally don't do anything without clear indications of consent (which I suspect contributes to some girls seeing them as spineless), but I'll bet there is a solid connection between this behaviour and the goth girls being slutty. Each attitude is made possible by the other.
That's all very sad. There are still a few of us who value a gentleman and who are up front and clear about our boundaries. But I've found that to be a tremendous disadvantage in this scene.
Right so #1, Bill definitely isn't the protagonist and #2, the writers are building a relationship that lacks trust because that's what the story line for their relationship calls for based on the books. Just wait 'til season 3!

Sorry, but I kinda think True Blood's a bit more realistic (well, as realistic as we can get with vampires) than Twilight when it comes to emotions and reactions. Vampires are 'bad' and driven by their desire for blood...specifically Sookie's blood. Also, most of the vampires in True Blood were made and lived in times when women weren't equal to men and when they were still in the closet, rape and murder was...easier. Most take what they want from humans, period.

I also think Twilight is more geared toward teenagers whereas True Blood is very much an adult only series.

HBO isn't trying to send any messages of boundary pushing and they aren't trying to glorify rape...they're trying to tell a sexy story. Besides, the writers are just basing the plot off of the books written by Charlaine Harris.
I haven't read the books. But I guess I find it hard to believe that people would enjoy a story centered around a relationship lacking trust. I think of books as an escape from real life. And real life already has plenty of relationships without trust. Or ones where you think you can trust someone but it turns out that was a bad idea.
Well, it's not like TV doesn't have a history of glorifying that which is generally deemed 'wrong' or 'bad' by society in the first place.

After all, how many people thought that "The Sopranos" was one of the best tv shows ever? And how is "The Godfather" doing in overall earnings again? ;)
I never saw the Sopranos or the Godfather.