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I am kicking ass on my stripper studies for the club tour tomorrow night. I am a plethora of stripper knowledge!

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Should we quiz you?

The topic is stripper-math.

If each dance is $20, how much for four consecutive dances?

Bzzzzt! I'm sorry, $80 is wrong. The correct answer is $100.
Sorry, I'm being funny. It doesn't always translate well OUTSIDE of my head.
Me too. Like I know which ones have kids and are currently pregnant and whose hubby is in jail. I also know which ones are strung out on crack and whose boyfriend is wanted for murder. I can name the girl who split another girl's head open with a stripper shoe. I can tell you the club punishment for breaking rules and how often they mop the floors. If they ask percentages about how many moms strip with their daughters I might be able to figure that out too. If you ever want to teach the horrors of stripping, just hire me.

I hope you don't make the job seem glamorous. When you tell them how much money they make on a good night, please tell them HOW they made it. We don't want a bunch more naive girls getting caught up in the biz.

Edited at 2008-06-26 08:11 pm (UTC)
You know, I've kept my mouth shut through most of the back and forth over offering "stripper" tours to educate people, but it's posts like these that get to me.

I work for a Fortune 100 company, and there's people showing up at work on meth or coke, people who's significant others commit crimes (including murder) People who lose it and hit their son's soccer coach with cleats, splitting his head open.

A job is a job. Sure, there are *always* various jobs that attract larger percentages of drama and chaos, but there's also a hell of a lot of non-messed up girls making a good living at it, who don't fall into any of the above categories.

Insinuating that the only way to make money stripping ("When you tell them how much money they make on a good night, please tell them HOW they made it.") is pretty darn rude to all the ladies who work the job clean.

If you have a problem with stripping, that's fine, there's a lot of negatives to it for many. I personally have a problem with accounting, I *hate* working with numbers and taxes day in and day out. But I don't bad-mouth it as a profession.

And yes, stripping does attract a higher percentage of negative stuff, especially when you get places like Rick's which is currently under a federal RICO investigation for management encouragement of prostitution. I'm not saying your list of "bad things that happen" isn't accurate, I'm saying it isn't the only thing that goes on. Some people navigate their way around/avoid the crap, and enjoy the work.

There's also plenty of places around the country where the club management runs a tight ship, keeps things clean, and provides a reasonable working environment. (the Bush company in AK comes to mind)

Please try and be realistic about the good and bad, without using sweeping generalizations.

I'd like to comment that I have only a limited amount of experience with all of this because I sold costumes to the girls for about a year in 4 different clubs. I know there are girls who aren't full of drama, and are clean, and don't do anything but dance. Clean strippers aren't the norm. Those girls sometimes talk about the difficulties of making a decent living at their job because it is hard for them to get customers when other girls will provide a lot more services. I didn't see most of those girls stick around long. Maybe they went to work for a club that was run with strict supervision and made it mandatory to follow the laws.

I do remember the support and celebration the girls would have if one of their stripper friends got a different job, say as a barista or something. Many of those girls don't think they have what it takes to hold an entry level job, so to see one of their friends break out of the biz seemed to give them hope. It seems like the majority of the girls I sold costumes hate their life and their job and depend on drugs to get through it all. They don't seem to have healthy support systems and I was a sort of link from the "normal" world, so they would talk to me. Since my last comment sounded harsh, I just want to point out that I am not bitter at the girls so much as I am at the biz and the way girls get sucked into it.

Edited at 2008-06-26 09:57 pm (UTC)

Wow.

I'm assuming you sold costumes at all of the Colacurcio clubs. These places are the lowest of the low. The dirtiest clubs I know of and NOT a good representation of the majority of clubs in Washington and certainly not the United States. Clean girls ARE the norm in other clubs...and I'm not just talking about in Washington. Girls that depend on alcohol and drugs to 'get them through it' don't last; they're not the ones who are by any means successful at dancing.

I can personally say that I know dozens of girls who dance cleanly. They are successful at overriding the dirty girls because they have the confidence and class that those girls don't. These girls dance their way through school, they buy houses, if they have children, more power to them; they have the ability to send their kids to private schools. I'm looking into buying a house right now...how many other 20 year olds do you know that are making these kinds of investments?

I just think your opinion only applies to a very minute percentage of clubs and people.

Re: Wow.

Your assumption is correct. She sold clothes at every strip club BUT Deja Vu because Deja Vu has an exclusive deal with Hustler clothing and won't allow any outside costume sales people to sell on the premises. So you can see why she has that impression of stripping.

Re: Wow.

Sure it applies only to a minute percentage of the clubs. I've only sold costumes in 4 and that's not very many, but I had a picture of what dancing was like and they surpassed my expectations of how dirty and broken they could be. I worked with your "stereotypical" sex workers on drugs, that's what I'm saying. That is what I've seen. I was surrounded by strung out hookers who would do anything for $30. There were violent cat fights on a weekly basis (some sent girls to the hospital), and girls getting arrested left and right for propositioning cops for sex. They smoked more than pot in the dressing rooms, snorted coke, and had lockers designated just for alcohol. I lost track of how many of the dancers were pregnant and doing all kinds of drugs. I made more money at that job than any place I've ever worked, but it took an emotional toll on me. I'm glad to know that this isn't the norm. That is a serious relief.
If you are available for the dinner portion of the tour (you don't have to go into the club), I would be happy to pay for your dinner and drinks. You've seen lot more of the inside of strip clubs than I have. It's Friday night at 7pm.
Lovely, so this just degenerated from "try and give people a fair an honest idea about the realities of strip clubs"

To: "Lets invite someone out to dinner with my tour who will reinforce all the over-hyped, untrue, generalized stereotypes about strippers that have been perpetuated by society for years"

The following two statements are especially lovely fodder to feed your tour:

"Clean strippers aren't the norm."

"Many of those girls don't think they have what it takes to hold an entry level job, so to see one of their friends break out of the biz seemed to give them hope."

Yeah, those are perfect representations... just perfect...

I find it hilarious how this is being attributed to "stripping." In New York a few years ago, I had drinks with some people we met who were cast dancers/singers for the Broadway production of Cats. It's hilarious how their griping about work, the stories of drug abuse and drinking to get through the shows every night, how much they hated the workload as a minor player in the cast, etc... parallel everything that's being attributed to stripping.



Sweetestkiss is not the only person I asked to join us for dinner. I also asked a friend that is a dancer...a clean dancer. I would have asked lilpixie_2006 too but I don't know her well enough to ask.
Hey, just saw this. Thought you might like it, possibly for some safety first discussion:

Yikes!

Except that wasn't a stripper, it was a belly dancer. But I'll be sure and include that on my belly dancer tour. ;)